Can I somehow sell small ranks up to 20 euro without a trade?

dr
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Have a Minecraft server in which I have invested 400 euro so far and would like to get something for it. 70 players a day too!
Can you somehow get money for it (e.g. Ranks or donation)

Or somehow sell the ranks as a donation and I give it as a reward?

Ko

You can't accept donations as your Minecraft server is not a non-profit organization. What you're going to do is sell, and that's commercial. There's no exemption limit. A trade may have to be registered long before the first penny is earned, namely when there's an intention to make a profit.

Br

If the income is only there to cover the running server costs, it's ok.

But if you want to make a profit (for example to technically expand the server), don't.

Sy

Question98's answer is wrong. A business can only apply for someone who has a company / company and offers a service or sells something. Everything must be publicly available.

A Minecraft server is only accessible to registered players and it is also not possible to turn it into a company. Unless you start a company and run the server under it. E.g. Like Gomme.

Anyone can receive donations, you don't need to be an association. This is then called donation or support. But it comes to the same thing.

No, you do not need a business for the few Öcken and you also have to be at least 18 years old or it runs through your parents. Complicated thing.

If you are already in your professional life, then you have to state the income in your tax return, on the other hand you have to pay for the server etc. At 100 euro a year nobody will be interested. Unless you take this monthly, which is doubtful.

Your city administration and the finance office will give you more detailed information. Just ask there. They don't bite either…

an

Selling FROM WHAT?

If someone gives me money and doesn't get anything in return, it's a donation and not a sale. Or not? One sells "nothing", so to speak. Or how should I understand that?

Ko

Very critical to spread such a half-knowledge on the net. That could be very expensive for the questioner - albeit unlikely.

A trade can only be applied for by those who have a company / company

A trade is a company. If a business could only apply for someone who already has a business, there would be no business.

sold something

What he has in mind, he explicitly mentions the sale of "ranks":

Or somehow sell the ranks as a donation and I give it as a reward?

A Minecraft server is only accessible to registered players and it is also not possible to turn it into a company.

Just because something is only accessible to a certain group of people does not mean that no business is necessary for the sale there. Example "Shopping Clubs" like Best Secret, where only invited members have access. Of course, this is a company - and therefore compulsory to trade.

Anyone can receive donations, you don't need to be an association.

That's just wrong. Fundraising in the way is only possible as a non-profit organization.

https://fm.rlp.de/de/themen/steuerrecht/fragen-und-antworten/gemeinnuetzigekeits-und-spendenrecht/

2. What are donations?

Donations in the tax sense are voluntary cash or non-cash contributions to a tax-privileged corporation, which are made without any legal obligation and which do not represent consideration for a service in return.

3. Who can be the recipient of tax-privileged gifts?

Particularly possible recipients of tax-privileged gifts are:

legal persons under public law (local authorities),
public services,
Associations, foundations or other corporations to which the tax office has granted tax concessions for promoting charitable, benevolent or church purposes or to which a so-called provisional certificate has been issued (see also question 4).

No, you don't need a business for the few Öcken

The trade law does not recognize any allowances. Business has to register who runs a business. And that is the case as soon as there's an intention to make a profit. Not if amount xy has been wagered. The trade regulations help:

§ 14 GewO

(1) Anyone who starts the independent operation of a standing trade, a branch or an dependent branch must notify the competent authority of this at the same time. […]

§ 146 GewO

(2) Anyone who acts intentionally or negligently is also an offense

2. Contrary to […] b) § https://dejure.org/gesetze/GewO/14.html paragraph 1 sentence 1, also in connection with sentence 2, paragraph 2 or a statutory ordinance according to § https://dejure.org/gesetze/GewO/14.html paragraph 14 sentence 2 number 1, or c) § https://dejure.org/gesetze/GewO/14.html paragraph 3 sentence 1 not, not correctly, not reimbursed in full or not in time, […]

(3) The regulatory offense can […] be punished in the other cases of paragraph 2 with a fine of up to one thousand euro.

be at least 18 years old for this or your parents will do it.

Also wrong. Trade law does not know "running through parents" either. When the parents register the trade, they are the traders, not the questioner.

Incidentally, there's also the opportunity for under 18s to set up a business. The family court can, with the consent of the parents and some other conditions, declare the minors to be legally competent in the sense of the trade.

Your city administration and the finance office will give you more detailed information. Just ask there. They don't bite either…

Perhaps you should have asked yourself before you spread such unbelievable nonsense here.

Yes, it is unlikely that the tax office or city council will step on him for a few euro a month. Nevertheless, this has happened regularly.

Ko

SELLING FROM WHAT?

Please refer:

Or somehow sell the ranks as a donation and I give it as a reward?

ma

CatBiggi: You shouldn't criticize any correct answers here. After all, all of the paragraphs in your answer are actually wrong. If you don't understand anything about trade law, please keep your fingers off the keyboard.

ma

CatBiggi: You shouldn't criticize any correct answers here. After all, all of the paragraphs in your answer are actually wrong. If you don't understand anything about trade law, please keep your fingers off the keyboard.

ma

Donations can only be accepted by non-profit organizations. Anything else would be gifts of money. But since you offer digital goods (ranks), these are commercial income, no matter what you call it.

Sy

Hola Hola, I've certainly been in the business longer than you. And you can rely on it, I'm not writing anything here that I can't represent 100%.

Sy

You see that quite correctly. The term "donation" is colloquial and is even used by PayPal and has nothing to do with an association or something similar. A "donation" is support for which one does not expect or receive anything in return. You can't compare that to buying, because you get equivalent value for it.

ma

Maybe you've been into Minecraft for a long time. Obviously, you still have a lot to learn from trade law.

I have been working in commercial law for over 20 years. I'm very familiar with the regulations, comments and case law. Therefore I can confirm the statements of Question98.