Why does the Minecraft shadermod run a bit worse with RX580 than with GTX 1050 Ti?

Ju
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I swapped my friend's RX580 for a GTX 1050 Ti because the RX580 does not fit on the mainboard. Now I was very happy that Minecraft Shader Mod will finally run much better than with GTX 1050 Ti. Of course, I then installed drivers and also downloaded and installed Windows 10 radeon software-adrenalin 2020-edition. When I tried the Minecraft SEUS Ultra at Biome, I was initially enthusiastic about how unusually smoothly running, but then when I was in the Rewi server lobby, I was extremely disappointed. Because there I have 20 to 30 FPS. And of course almost every shader mod. With no shader mod I have around 200FPS. I can't remember that with GTX 1050 Ti that I got so few FPS. Despite the RX580 having more VRam, 256bit instead of 128bit speed. How can that be? I'm really extremely disappointed.

Otherwise at Need for Speed Payback everything runs smoother and everything better than GTX 1050 Ti. At least that's the only positive thing.

What I also noticed that the driver software at Minecraft performance runs out as a marginal.

Se

Presumably the drivers Nvidia are optimized

Re
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Well I think that both are bad graphics cards. Get the RTX 2060 / Super! It is mega and well worth the price.

Pa
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Or get the RX 5700XT with the performance of a 2070 (Super). 🤓👍🏻

Ju

Well then I don't know what it will look like with a power supply, whether my 500 watt power supply can take part.

Br

AMD's OpenGL drivers on Windows are very bad and since Minecraft uses OpenGL this is no wonder, but if you were to play on Linux you would also get significantly more FPS in OpenGL because the OpenGL drivers on Linux are significantly better for AMD, at least for Mesa

Pa

Depending on the processor, it would even be possible if the power supply also works efficiently. 🧐

Ju

Can you at least download another OpenGL?

Br

No

Ju

But that can't be. My graphics card has 8GB Vram, 256bit. So normally, it has to run twice as fast with shaders. I expect a shader up to 200FPS.

Br

You can also read through here

https://www.reddit.com/..._games_so/

sa

An AMD Radeon RX580 is faster than a GeForce GTX 1050Ti. The performance level is roughly the same with the GeForce GTX 1060. The individual games with an Nvidia and others with an AMD GPU often work better because the games have been optimized by the developers accordingly.

However, the situation should not be as serious as you describe it. You won't benefit from the 8GB VRAM in a game like Minecraft. The game only works with a few textures in low quality which probably don't even fully utilize 4GB VRAM. That's why your GTX 1050Ti ran without any problems.

Also, the fact that the AMD OpenGL window driver is not the best and the AMD Polaris chip architecture on which the RX580 GPU is not known for top performance when using OpenGL as a graphics interface is not sufficient in my opinion to explain your problem.

Since you switched from an Nvidia to an AMD GPU, it could be that there are "remnants" of the Nvidia driver on your system. Windows often struggles to completely remove such drivers. You can try this tool

https://www.chip.de/...92840.html

remove all graphics drivers from your system. Then start Windows in Safe Mode. After restarting, you can then install the current AMD graphics driver.

Ju

Or would it be worth it if I upgrade to a new power supply? Because I have also plugged in the pin connector with the adapter cable from the power supply to the graphics card, but I'm not 100% sure whether the power supply will recognize these plugs.

sa

How much power does the power supply have?

Ju

500 watts

sa

That should be enough if you have not overclocked either the CPU or the GPU. Try to reinstall the driver as described. It may also make sense to activate vsync in Minecraft.

What resolution and refresh rate are you playing at?

Ju

Yes with full screen in 1920x1080 pixels (exactly as much resolution as my monitor).

sa

And the refresh rate, i.e. The Hz number of your monitor?

Ju

I think my monitor has 60Hz.

sa

Ok, the RX 580 can handle that. So try that with the complete driver removal.

Re

You can see the difference between the RTX 2060 and your graphics card. Vram doesn't say everything.

ke

You're a real hero too. So your proposed solution is that he, who is a student and obviously doesn't have as much coal, should buy a graphics card that has 50% more power but costs 100% more than what he has now.

And then it's supposed to be such a big miracle because the NVIDIA, which came on the market 2 years later than its AMD, has more power… 🤦🏼♂️