Purchase advice PC? New or used?

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My son (12) needs and wishes for Christmas a new PC. He does so less with games except Minecraft and one or the other simulation game like Omsi or Virtual Rides. He looks a lot more youtube and starts slowly with some video editing. The first for what he needs the thing. Now the question, new or used? I have selected the following offers:

AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 4x 3.5GHz

8GB DDR4 RAM PC-2400
AMD Radeon Vega 8 graphic
1TB S-ATA3 hard drive
7.1 Sound / Gigabit LAN

New, 36 months warranty, 280 euro. Or something like this:

Dell Optiplex 990

Intel Core i5 2500
4GB RAM
Graphic on board
500GB S-ATA3 hard drive

Used, 99 euro, 1 year warranty

I would be willing to take some money in the hand to build a better graphics card and increase the RAM, question only worth it?

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https://hardwarerat.de/...aming-pcs/

Here are usable for a fair price

Fa

The first does not sound bad, but an SSD would be fine.

The second may not fit the specs, would you have a link to the offer?

st

Video editing and computer games need the same hardware. Therefore, everything GamingPC is suitable for.

I think with a small Ryzen, rather the 2400g because hyperthreading, you are certainly not wrong, but an SSD I would treat your son already. Since it saves a lot of time, especially in the video store.

The graphics card, I would save me for another opportunity, since the budget in my eyes, first better invested in the other hardware.

I imagine the system like this:

Ryzen 3 2400g / 3400g (same silicon)

b450 motherboard

8GB DDR4 3000Mhz +

500GB SSD

BeQuiet 400Watt power supply

Any case

Since you come out without operating at about 380 euro.

https://www.mindfactory.de/...76c39745b6

For a birthday, Easter or whatever, he can then get a graphics card and the whole thing is of course always assembled with dad.

Ab

Since second offer looks strange. To my knowledge, the Vega 8 graphics chip is built exclusively in Ryzen CPUs (e.g., 2200G and 3200G). Therefore, it is not actually possible to find this graphics chip in a system with Intel CPU.

In general, I would rather recommend the first system, it is more expensive, but more future-proof, that is, you can later even better CPUs reinsetzen. If he wants more power then you do not have to buy a new PC. Get a Ryzen 3700X and a good graphics card, and he has a really solid calculator.

But you should pay attention to the following things:

It should always be installed at least 2 RAM bars, even if it is only 8 GB (ie 2x4 GB instead of 1x8 GB), only then the RAM runs in dual-channel at full speed. With budget PCs, however, often only a RAM bar is installed, which unnecessarily slows down the PC.

There should be no A320 motherboard used.

The system should have an SSD hard drive, operating a system with only a classic (HDD) hard disk is outdated.

However, you can't expect much from this computer, games will only run on the lowest settings, videos will take a long time to export, with longer video projects could be scarce 8 GB of RAM, and the work in the video editing program is slowed down in places by the computer.

My personal recommendation:

I would recommend a system with a Ryzen 2400G or 3400G, as well as RAM with at least 2800 MHz, which would increase the performance in many ways again.

Yes, he is only 12 years old, but I think that when children start showing interest in media production, it should be promoted. If you really get involved early on, it can make things a lot easier in school and university. So, just when he's not just using it for daddling, I'd see that the pc is reasonably usable. For 280 euro, you get only a simple office PC, but video editing and gaming are actually two of the most power-hungry use cases. It helps every bit of performance, but you should at least have a solid foundation, and I think that's not the case with a 2200G. Just the fact that 2400G and 3400G have simultaneous multithreading makes them faster to export in videos. So I think it would not be wrong to invest a little bit more. As I said, the AM4 platform is relatively future-proof, so you will not have to spend too much money in the near future.

Me

Have for my children (12 and 9 years) synonymous 2 PC purchased.

HP 8200 per 68 euro.

The i5-2500 are enough for everything they play… Minecraft, Sims4 etc.

Would take the Dell.

RAM on 8GB. 20 euro

SSD 256GB 30 euro / SSD 120GB 17 euro.

GT 1030 80 euro or used RX460 60-70 euro.

Are then about 200 - 230 euro for a stable system. Dell lasts forever (mostly).

There's no Dell with Vega 8 and i5-2500, there's something wrong.

Co

I've been prescribed, the I5 has no Vega 8 but ne graphic on board but he did not let me correct it.

Co

I've been prescribed, the I5 has no Vega 8 but ne graphic on board but he did not let me correct it.