I'm looking for a new PC up to 600 euro, which I can cut for work and video (FullHD / 4K) and now and then use it for gaming from Minecraft, Forza Horizon 4 or Diablo 3.
I had my last tower 20 years ago, so I don't climb behind it. With notebooks I know what is good and what is not. However, I need your help here.
What is important to me:
at least 16GB of storage
Good GraKa
Wi-Fi (since I have no LAN connection in my office and the next router is 2 rooms further in the living room)
Videos should be able to be rendered quickly
I would also like to be able to add or change components later.
If a monitor were included, it would be nice. But is not a must.
Do you have experience with complete solutions already assembled or can you give me tips for putting them together?
Lower your expectations or increase the total.
Alone a reasonably sensible graphics card (good) costs min. 250 euro. DDR3-2400 RAM 16GB cost about 100 euro.
So in my opinion it will be so scarce that you would not be satisfied in the end. Cut particularly fast 4K. At 600 euro. That is more than tight.
https://www.hardwaredealz.com/bester-gaming-pc-fuer-unter-600-euro-gamer-pc-bis-600-euro/
Come down. For example, the RX 580 is doing quite well. https://www.hardwaredealz.com/bester-gaming-pc-fuer-unter-600-euro-gamer-pc-bis-600-euro/
As a basic system to get you started, I can currently only recommend a system with AMD Ryzen 5 - 2400G / 3400G + AMD Vega 11 graphics and 2 × 8 GB DDR4-2933 to DDR4 - 3200 for the basic framework.
If a Ryzen 5 - 2400g was used initially, a somewhat cheaper AM4 mainboard with an AMD B450 chipset would suffice, which could then also be operated with Ryzen 5/7 - 3x00 after an optional BIOS update.
Then you pack in a PCIe x1 to x4 W-Lan / Wi-Fi card, an SSD + HDD (SATA 6 GB / s each) are sufficient at the beginning, treat the part to a passable CPU cooler and then from the start ever a passable power supply such as On
Be Quiet Pure Power 11 - 500 watts
Then you have some money for a passable case, a usable full HD monitor (TN panel) and, if necessary, a keyboard and mouse in addition to Windows.
Then you can save in peace on a dedicated PCIe graphics card.
Or you can take a Ryzen 5 - 2600 instead of the Ryzen 5 - 2400G (currently around 120 euro at Mindfactory) and look at the beginning e.g. Then used for something used in the graphics from a Geforce GT 740 / GTX 750 (Ti) or a Radeon R7 - 265/270 to RX 550/560.
The 6 cores + SMT of the Ryzen 5 - 2600 vs. 2400G can provide almost 50% more basic performance for the beginning, especially when it comes to video editing and post-processing.
The proposed initial graphics solutions would (with the possible exception of the Geforce GT 740) more or less pull the Vega 11 of a 2400g, sometimes significantly more than the same.
However, the Geforce GT 740 (Geforce GTX 750 with DDR3 - Vram @ 128 Bit) would also be relatively equivalent to a Vega 11.
In my suggestions for the system base, you have to fully exhaust the 600 to 650 euro budget initially including Windows + Monitor. Initially, this is only about a basis with rudimentarily sufficient graphics performance.
You put excess money back in the savings stocking for a final graphics card.
OK. The price is not bad.
FHD should be cut briskly. Not 4K. Since I mostly cut to FHD anyway, but now and then I have a project where 4K also occurs. If a 4K video lasts an hour, that's ok for me.
It is not specifically about cutting games and videos, the tower should only be able to master this when it is needed. Courage Well, I don't mean a high-end solution.
Monitor is also not a must, I could have it set up, or I have one to start with, as well as a mouse and keyboard. I mainly want to work with the device. Create websites, create web shops, etc. Etc.
You just have to know the right websites etc., ready PCs eg hardware deal (from a YT channel), for parts eg Mindfactory.
And tower? Are you taking your old one or how is it
Mindfactory only makes sense if you order a lot. Since the shipping costs are 9 euro. You can get some hardware cheaper at Amazon including shipping. I've tested it often enough.
Sorry, no, also comes. But said yes that I haven't had one in twenty years
Thank you. I'll take a look at it. I still have a hard time assembling.
What do you say to the thing here:
https://www.saturn.de/...ppshare%7C
I would buy an additional RAM and I still have a HDD here.
Then you should try a large online system house, which would be possible within my budget in my proposal. In their PC configurators you can then easily replace some parts such as CPU, power supply, mainboard, CPU cooler and RAM, and THE will then build it together and pull Windows on it.
Then you would have to look for pre-assembled computers (better without a monitor) within your budget at one of these system houses, and then make small adjustments using the system configurator.
Graphics card and graphics driver would be your problem when retrofitting at home.
I wouldn't buy it at "Saturn". Too expensive
Aldi now offers a complete notebook with the Ryzen 5-3500g via its own brand "Medion" online, just under 500 euro.
So it's not worth it.
Unfortunately, Saturn does not provide any information about the power supply and the specifically installed power supply. "Saturn" doesn't say much about RAM either. With only 1 × 8 GB DDR4 - 2666 you would give away a massive amount of performance on a Ryzen 5 - 3400g compared to 2 × 4 GB DDR4 - 3200 without a dedicated PCIe graphics card.
However, the very cheap A320m mainboards only offer 2 memory slots and, with the AMD A320m chipset, only release up to 65 watts TDP for the CPU.
Therefore I see the Saturn "offer" very counterproductive for your ambitions regarding upgradeability.
If in doubt, you can get the keyboard and mouse together for around 20 to 30 euro. Inexpensive 17 "FHD monitor again a Hunni extra… Everything used massively cheaper in the periphery.
You can forget a monitor included in the budget. Or you would have to make big cuts in performance.
But for 600 euro there's something quite decent:
